Where The Wild Things Are
October 29th 2009 06:51
British naturalist and television presenter Sir David Attenborough revealed that he receives hate mail from people telling him to “burn in hell”.
But why? Sir David seems like a fairly mild mannered and polite fellow so it is only natural to ask what would lead people to send hate mail to an 82 year old man. The answer is this – David Attenborough believes in Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution.
David stated the he is often asked by people why he doesn’t give any credit to God in his wildlife programmes, David said his belief in evolution became cemented when he saw a worm burrowed into the eye of a small child in Africa.
Sir David said that the worm is unable to live in any other way, except by burrowing through eyeballs so he finds it hard to reconcile with the notion of a divine and benevolent creator.
So there you have it, another reasonable and polite explanation for something as we have come to expect from Sir David. This is also a view that is generally shared and backed up by the scientific community as well. Apparently the fact that a naturalist, a man whose profession is grounded in explaining the natural world through logic, reason and scientific principles is of some surprise to a number of people. But really, what else were they expecting?
I find the whole “intelligent design versus evolution” argument distasteful and redundant. The theory of evolution is grounded in science, it can be quantified and studied and evidence can be provided to support the theory. Intelligent Design on the other hand is not based on any evidence whatsoever, it is theologically and ideologically based and cannot be supported. You would think that we would simply ignore the Intelligent Design movement once it had been discredited and get on with it.
Unfortunately not, the intelligent design theory has been helped in its cause by a number of high profile people who have said that they believe it, among them George Bush and Sarah Palin. There was some impetus a while back in some US states to teach it as an alternative theory to evolution in science class. As far as I understand this didn’t pan out but the fact that it was even discussed amazes me.
Now I don’t care what your religion is, if you want to believe in God or Buddha or Chewbacca I really don’t care as long as you keep it to yourself. Religion and belief is an independent and personal choice. When you try to confuse religion and science, politics or anything else that involves society at large it doesn’t work. You end up in a situation not dissimilar to missionary work, your goal is to convert by subtle infiltration into regular society. This erodes the principles of a free and tolerant society as well as the freedom of belief that we pride ourselves on as a modern civilization.
At least Attenborough is consistent, one thing that always makes me laugh (and chills me with horror at the same time) is the inability for some of these religious radicals to see the hypocrisy inherent in their reactions to things. A loving God generally wouldn’t accept people telling others to burn in hell for a start and nowhere in the Ten Commandments do I see a “Thou shalt not apply scientific principles”. You could at a stretch argue about worshipping false idols, but it would be a big stretch since science is not an idol nor do I see anyone praying to it. One part of the Bible that often gets forgotten is the “Turn the other cheek” bit or “Thou shalt not kill”. The only reason I pick the Bible and Christianity is simply because I’m more familiar with it than any other.
Also to say that Intelligent Design is the way that the world was created and to teach it in class would denigrate the beliefs of other religions. It is a somewhat narrow view to believe that your belief is the only true and correct one and that everyone else’s is wrong. If we were to allow for Intelligent Design to be taught in schools then it would be only fair that we taught all the other explanations of creation from all other religions.
We also need to be aware that religions are not static so aren’t inherently true, other than in terms of their truth in their application to our daily lives on a personal level. Once upon a time most of the major religions we had to day didn’t exist and polytheism was the order of the day, the wheels of history turned and monotheism became the order of the day. So the number of gods we had suddenly shrunk.
Where did they go? Why did they stop being true? Perhaps Thor and Zeus took off and retired early and may now be at your local downing a few cold ones and telling stories of the good old days. This will probably be indicated clearly to you when there is thunder and lightning together, only inside the building rather than out.
Religion is a fine way to explain the way we live but it is not able to explain how we came to live. We should not confuse the two. I know if I had a worm burrowing through my eyeball I’d be kind of pissed at God if I thought he created it, especially if it was supposed to be “intelligent design”. I’d be thinking “it’d be more fucking intelligent if you created a worm that wasn’t lodged halfway between my eye and my brain you jerk”. Attenborough pointed out that most of the time when people talk about Intelligent Design they only mean nice things like hummingbirds or flowers rather than parasites or lawyers (actually, did I just say the same thing twice there?).
The point of this article is not to say that religion is wrong or that one religion is better than another, or even that science is better than religion. Both have their place and uses, the difference between science and religion is that religion is a personal thing and is best kept to oneself.
But why? Sir David seems like a fairly mild mannered and polite fellow so it is only natural to ask what would lead people to send hate mail to an 82 year old man. The answer is this – David Attenborough believes in Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution.
David stated the he is often asked by people why he doesn’t give any credit to God in his wildlife programmes, David said his belief in evolution became cemented when he saw a worm burrowed into the eye of a small child in Africa.
Sir David said that the worm is unable to live in any other way, except by burrowing through eyeballs so he finds it hard to reconcile with the notion of a divine and benevolent creator.
So there you have it, another reasonable and polite explanation for something as we have come to expect from Sir David. This is also a view that is generally shared and backed up by the scientific community as well. Apparently the fact that a naturalist, a man whose profession is grounded in explaining the natural world through logic, reason and scientific principles is of some surprise to a number of people. But really, what else were they expecting?
I find the whole “intelligent design versus evolution” argument distasteful and redundant. The theory of evolution is grounded in science, it can be quantified and studied and evidence can be provided to support the theory. Intelligent Design on the other hand is not based on any evidence whatsoever, it is theologically and ideologically based and cannot be supported. You would think that we would simply ignore the Intelligent Design movement once it had been discredited and get on with it.
Unfortunately not, the intelligent design theory has been helped in its cause by a number of high profile people who have said that they believe it, among them George Bush and Sarah Palin. There was some impetus a while back in some US states to teach it as an alternative theory to evolution in science class. As far as I understand this didn’t pan out but the fact that it was even discussed amazes me.
Now I don’t care what your religion is, if you want to believe in God or Buddha or Chewbacca I really don’t care as long as you keep it to yourself. Religion and belief is an independent and personal choice. When you try to confuse religion and science, politics or anything else that involves society at large it doesn’t work. You end up in a situation not dissimilar to missionary work, your goal is to convert by subtle infiltration into regular society. This erodes the principles of a free and tolerant society as well as the freedom of belief that we pride ourselves on as a modern civilization.
At least Attenborough is consistent, one thing that always makes me laugh (and chills me with horror at the same time) is the inability for some of these religious radicals to see the hypocrisy inherent in their reactions to things. A loving God generally wouldn’t accept people telling others to burn in hell for a start and nowhere in the Ten Commandments do I see a “Thou shalt not apply scientific principles”. You could at a stretch argue about worshipping false idols, but it would be a big stretch since science is not an idol nor do I see anyone praying to it. One part of the Bible that often gets forgotten is the “Turn the other cheek” bit or “Thou shalt not kill”. The only reason I pick the Bible and Christianity is simply because I’m more familiar with it than any other.
Also to say that Intelligent Design is the way that the world was created and to teach it in class would denigrate the beliefs of other religions. It is a somewhat narrow view to believe that your belief is the only true and correct one and that everyone else’s is wrong. If we were to allow for Intelligent Design to be taught in schools then it would be only fair that we taught all the other explanations of creation from all other religions.
We also need to be aware that religions are not static so aren’t inherently true, other than in terms of their truth in their application to our daily lives on a personal level. Once upon a time most of the major religions we had to day didn’t exist and polytheism was the order of the day, the wheels of history turned and monotheism became the order of the day. So the number of gods we had suddenly shrunk.
Where did they go? Why did they stop being true? Perhaps Thor and Zeus took off and retired early and may now be at your local downing a few cold ones and telling stories of the good old days. This will probably be indicated clearly to you when there is thunder and lightning together, only inside the building rather than out.
Religion is a fine way to explain the way we live but it is not able to explain how we came to live. We should not confuse the two. I know if I had a worm burrowing through my eyeball I’d be kind of pissed at God if I thought he created it, especially if it was supposed to be “intelligent design”. I’d be thinking “it’d be more fucking intelligent if you created a worm that wasn’t lodged halfway between my eye and my brain you jerk”. Attenborough pointed out that most of the time when people talk about Intelligent Design they only mean nice things like hummingbirds or flowers rather than parasites or lawyers (actually, did I just say the same thing twice there?).
The point of this article is not to say that religion is wrong or that one religion is better than another, or even that science is better than religion. Both have their place and uses, the difference between science and religion is that religion is a personal thing and is best kept to oneself.
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