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Trusted media sources?

October 31st 2008 18:29
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain"



This post is to create a pool of media sources worldwide that are considered, in your opinions, to be trustworthy.

Anyone know of any? Please post a link and tell us why.



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Comment by Damo

October 31st 2008 20:14
DA

As much I would like to list a trusted list.
Each and every one has had issues of reliability from time to time.
However some do make the effort.

Anything that looks like story designed to fit an opinion, normally is.

However most international new come from just a few sources.

Reuters - reputation for accuracy is good
AP -Accuracy is reasonable to good
AAP - feeds off AP
AFP - good reputation
Al Jazera - Bad reputation in the west. Most stories I have seen do try to be accurate. Sometimes indulges in advocacy journalism.
FOX et al -Murdocks puppy. Sometimes does its job but is often agenda driven directly by Murdock.
BBC - News is usually accurate and follow the neutral line. Occasionally breaks out with Politically Correctness,




Comment by Jonathan Biviano

October 31st 2008 20:25
In a study by an independent research firm, the most even handed media . . .

Fox News: 40% of its stories on McCain were negative and 40% of its stories on Obama were negative.

MSNBC: 73% of its stories on McCain were negative, 14% of its stories on Obama were negative.

Newspapers nationwide average: 44% of their stories about McCain were negative, 6% of their stories about Obama were negative.

I report, you decide

Comment by Lady Henrietta Muddling

October 31st 2008 21:56
D. Armenta,

When it comes to media articles containing 'historical' information, or based upon 'historical' information, I often use The Internet Medieval Sourcebook from Fordham University.

I sometimes wonder where people get their 'historical' information from. The first Google they do?

There's some quite lengthy articles on Diogenes on the site. And I found this quote of his interesting in relation to this blog:

Having lighted a candle in the day time, he said, "I am looking for a man."


There's a few other sites I trust in relation to Catholic or religous information, lives of saints, and theology, philosophy and spirituality. I'll list a couple of them later on.

As for the daily glut of media? Current affairs? We have an ABC (Australian Broadcasting Commission) programme called Media Watch. It's a weekly program examining all the misreporting by the media during the preceding week. I don't know if America has a similar program or not, but they should. It would be a winner. Media Watch do have a website. (link included). Media Watch would be the most reliable source of media mis-reporting we have. It's well worth a look, even for an American, because American news often dominates the media out here.

Comment by Norm

October 31st 2008 21:59
Orble's pretty good, if you want to find out what's going in the world... of... Orble.
I reckon Fox is pretty good, 40% of the time they are and 40% they're not.
MSNBC are not to be trusted. Too negative and not negative enough.
The papers are slightly less negative, overall.
On the whole, you should only trust that which you believe.

Comment by Damo

October 31st 2008 22:43
David

You you just gave DA one of my secret pools of knowledge. Media Watch.
Darn you, darn you all to Heck!


Comment by Lady Henrietta Muddling

October 31st 2008 23:27
Damo,

In the kiddy playground that is Orble, we all have to learn to share. Stop keeping all the good chocolates in your socks.

Comment by Nevar

November 1st 2008 02:11
Damo is holding out?

Wow, so much news: there are so few trustworthy sources that I just make up my own, and cut n paste random articles from the plagiarists bible to corroborate whatever strikes my fancy. Its easier than researching and no one usually notices.


Comment by D. Armenta

November 1st 2008 03:01
Thank you, David, for the only excellent resources offered on this post so far.

Damo my old friend-- I know you're trying to destroy me, etc. but you recommend Fox and hold out on MediaWatch?!

Oh, the inhumanity.

Jonathan, that's useful information. Do you have any news sources you lend credence to?

Norm--as always, a ringing endorsement. What's brown and sounds like a bell?

>>> dunnnnnggggggg <<<<<

Nevar, damn it to hell! You mean I've been doing things the hard way all along? You guys are really holding out on me here.






Comment by Nevar

November 1st 2008 03:31
Yup.

Comment by D. Armenta

November 1st 2008 03:56
Okay, here's a good news resource from my Canadian friend: TheRealNews

I like this site because it posts recorded news/event footage. The board of directors is based in Canada, India, Bangladesh and the United States.

Okay, writers--quit being stingy with your good resources! This is for the good of all of us.

Follow David's generous example, please.

Comment by Nevar

November 1st 2008 05:11
Darn, there went my ace in the hole.

Comment by RubySoho

November 1st 2008 11:06
Green Left Weekly.

Just kidding, I meant The Watchtower.

No, no, that's not it.


Catholic Leader Online?



Comment by Damo

November 1st 2008 12:34
Well, we just found the least accurate news source.

The Bigoted and Malicious Daily.



Comment by RubySoho

November 1st 2008 12:40

Comment by Damo

November 1st 2008 12:43
Says you and no returns.


Comment by Ahmed

November 1st 2008 12:50
In a study by an independent research firm, the most even handed media . . .

Fox News: 40% of its stories on McCain were negative and 40% of its stories on Obama were negative.

MSNBC: 73% of its stories on McCain were negative, 14% of its stories on Obama were negative.

Newspapers nationwide average: 44% of their stories about McCain were negative, 6% of their stories about Obama were negative.

I report, you decide

Wait, hang on, by your logic the media can only be fair and impartial by giving equal negative coverage to everyone?

So if Obama was running against, say, Hitler, you would be outraged if 99% of the stories about Hitler were negative and only, 40% of stories about Obama were negative?

Comment by RubySoho

November 1st 2008 12:55
Ahmed: That was your best comment EVER.

Damo: Says you and if you don't shut up my big brother has a black belt and he is gunna come and bash you at recess and steal your lunch money.


Comment by Damo

November 1st 2008 13:09
Ruby

I said not returns.
You just lost the game.

Now I am going to bed so you can argue with your self all night. This DA's blog and she is in charge of it.



Comment by Lady Henrietta Muddling

November 1st 2008 18:40
D. Armenta,

Another good site is the ABCs Non-Theatric Sales.

(It is the television and radio program collection of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC), as well as programs sourced from independent producers and screened on ABC TV, for purchase by the non-theatric educational marketplace in Australia and New Zealand).

It has a diverse range of stories from:

The Real Rain Man
Whatever happened to the real Rain Man, the quiet genius Kim Peek, whose extraordinary life story inspired the character played by Dustin Hoffman?

to:

Seed Hunter
Seed Hunter is about the hunt for seeds that may help save the world from its greatest ever crisis - a global food shortage brought about by human-induced climate change.

to:

The Good, the Bad and the Ugg Boot.
The battle for the Ugg boot is a story about cultural identity and survival in the age of globalisation. The 'David and Goliath' plot pits a small group of Australian manufacturers and their distributors, against a large US corporation that have claimed Aussie icon, the Ugg boot, as its own. This has triggered a conflict that will set precedents for trademarks and branding worldwide.

I would not recommend Catholic Leader online. If you want Catholic information, go to the SSPXs (Society of St Pius X) American website. The Catholic Leader online is run by people as ignorant of Catholicism as most bloggers. It has links to SSPX centres in 17 other countries.

If you ever want to reference Sacred Scripture (the Bible) go to the Douay Rheims online. It's user friendly and has a great search function.

Comment by Damo

November 2nd 2008 01:26
Okay Da I get the hint.

I like Scientific America.

http://www.sciam.com/
They know how to separate science from editorial BS.

James Randy
http://www.randi.org/joom/
Skeptical investigations.

Rick Ross
About 80 -90% excellent and error free.

Xenu.net
When blogs cease to make sense I go here to relax.

Jove.com
Videos of advances in medicine and biomedicine. Written by the scientists themselves.

For Mahatma Gandhi try
Really Long Link
Okay I slipped that one in. However it is the best and most comprehensive site on the subject I have seen.

Snopes
http://www.snopes.com/
About 80-90% accurate.
Excellent search function


Comment by D. Armenta

November 2nd 2008 14:34
Excellent, excellent resources from David and Damo. Thanks, guys.

Ahmed, Ruby and Nevar--comeon, I know all three of you do a lot of research. Cough up some good resources, before our internet use becomes too regulated!

Comment by Ahmed

November 2nd 2008 17:55
Ahmed, Ruby and Nevar--comeon, I know all three of you do a lot of research.

I just read someones whacky conspiracy theory and detail how its a load of bullshit by supplementing it with my own conspiracy theory.

If I make sense then all the better.

Comment by Jim Stillman

November 2nd 2008 21:43
DA, if I am using only one initial source, I am apt to go to the BBC site. However, I read a number of sites on a regular basis. I usually start at Huffington Post and The Nation. I read and listen to the 7 -10 PM shows on MSNBC and listen to the radio shows by the Fox people, Rush, Bill, Sean mostly. I subscribe to and read Human Events an ultra-right site. There are few sources that are totally free of slant, although the NY Times, Boston Globe and LA Times come close, especially when their op-ed pages are considered. The result is that I read, read and read some more.

Jim

Comment by RubySoho

November 3rd 2008 00:30
I'm actually quite boring D.A. For my everyday news I read mostly the BBC online and The Age, sometimes The Australian. Sometimes I go to the Guardian or The Times Online. I also like the New York Times.

If i want a deeper analysis of the news I read smaller independent publications like NewMatilda.com or Crikey.com.

Salon.com is a good progressive online zine but you have to approach such publications knowing their slant.



Comment by D. Armenta

November 9th 2008 16:40
Ahmed--well, give us a link! Let's read some of your stuff.

Jim and Ruby-thank you for the excellent resources!

Comment by Lilla

November 10th 2008 11:24
D.Arm,

I would have to say that for reliable media it would be best to turn of the TV completely... and not buy newspapers at all.

There now, isnt that better?

I think the Internet has the best source of news there is available, but not from the mainstream,a lthough i have heard before that Fox is pretty good, if you must listen to the raving lunatics.

The problem is the system they report on, its so corrupt that you cannot report honestly anymore using truth, because truth isnt what it is about anymore. Which is why I am out of work. I have to agree with David on only trusting certain internet sites too. Certainly not Wikipeadia.

Yep, I would say switch the TV off and wrap your cats doo-doo in the papers. Now go out into the street and listen to whats happening in the real world. People are more than happy to repeat to you all the daily BS, in spades and it wont cost you a penny.

Lilla ...


Comment by Ahmed

November 10th 2008 12:09
Ahmed--well, give us a link! Let's read some of your stuff.

hmm, digg.com and reddit.com

Comment by D. Armenta

November 10th 2008 22:02
Lilla-don't lose hope, that's why I've set up this site. Already there have been some excellent resources given (albeit reluctantly in some cases, hahaha!)

Love the "wrap your cat's doo-doo in the papers" comment; too true!

I uncovered some info recently that would make you nauseous about the newspapers; it did me. I'll post on it when I get all my ducks in a row.

Thanks, Ahmed! I knew you'd come through.

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