Lola Tahlulah

Slidell, Louisiana, UNITED STATES


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Really good Natalie. Proud of you. Made me cry a little.

Comment by Lola Tahlulah
on Pastor Tony Alamo: Consent is Puberty

May 8th 2009 18:39
I am surprised to see this conversation is still rolling right along. In my eyes this is a good thing, because it represents both sides of the issue of David.

I would just say this. As one who has been dealt the very real abuse of a male partner, I feel I come from a place of clarity. Here is my story in speedy form. I was engaged to be married to the nicest man on planet earth, until one day he decided that my face resembled a punching bag and began to use it accordingly. With some help from the local authorities I managed to get him out of my house. I was not weak. I did not stay and take it like many people. I handled it promptly. Two weeks after he moved out,he returned through a window and raped me.

I pressed charges and nothing came of it. I was told that it was merely a domestic dispute and that as we were former lovers it did not constitute rape. He roams the city freely and for a long time I would still see him around. When he saw me he hurled insults and laughed at me. I was forced to move in with a friend over a thousand miles away to escape him. I do not know if I can ever go home.

The reason I share this story is for perspective about what I am about to say. David while crude rude and insulting merely dealt blows to match those that were doled out toward him. Those that rail against him in this very post participated in abuse toward him. Do not deny it and do not act as the only victim. I LOATHE some of the things he said about you Morgan, but I was equally troubled by some things you said about him.

Innocence is a funny thing because one looses perspective in the heat of battle and history is written by the winner. It has been hotly contested here that alt_ed was the source of the abuse dealt to David, but I would counter that the comment section of many of ed's posts were a breeding ground of applause and laudatory congratulations for his efforts.

The taunting and escalating jabs sent David's way were directly relative to his increasingly offensive commentary. I watched the whole thing happen. It was a bit of tragic theater and I admittedly was somewhat fascinated with the manner in which things unraveled.

Are you an innocent party when you partake in the ridicule of someone by making light of a drinking problem? This is what you have done, Morgan. Are you innocent when you defend actions that make light of someone's divorce? Of course not. Can you truly defend your stance in support of Alt_ed's removal when you welcome him back with open arms when he reappears in a comment, and says things like

Funny, for a 'straight' male, David sure likes to check me out in the locker room. I don't know that Mr Four-Inches of Pleasure should really be criticising others about their shlong size. Didn't David's wife divorce him? Gosh - who's got the tiny knob now eh?

and

That's David's problem - he's a fucking ALCOHOLIC JUNKIE!! Hepatitis anyone?

Your silence is deafening. You claim that you fully supported Ed's removal, but you also fully supported his comments as they rolled out over the weeks.

And of course when Ed targets two people:

David, this comment is NOT directed at you, therefore there is NO need to respond... I suggest you go and belt one out with Damo if you're feeling tense honey.

Your response was more encouragement:

hi Alt_Ed,
belt one out? HAHAHahaha
no one can replicate you honey, they broke the mould with your sense of humour . .

I will not go on. I want to finish by saying that while no one expects that you should be complacent while under attack, I do believe you lose a bit of credibility when your main line of defense when you are shown your own shortcomings is that you defend yourself by saying you only fling back equal to what you were given:

look i treat people how they treat me and David treats me like shit,

m not going to censor myself when he certainly doesnt

This type of attitude is what I think has feathers ruffled. Because people would like to see you hold yourself to a higher standard given the level of disdain you have for David and his remarks. It is possible to defend yourself without lowering yourself.

And the implication that people who have decided to take a neutral stance or at worst an opposing stance to yours are somehow part of the problem with women reporting abuse is pretty offensive, given my own situation.

Comment by Lola Tahlulah
on My Awakening

May 7th 2009 06:07
Impressive. I think it would make a great series that you could keep ongoing, and further develop and introduce new characters. These types of stories are so popular I think you would have a built in audience. Cheers to you!

Comment by Lola Tahlulah
on How times have changed...

May 6th 2009 19:45
Hey D. Alas, I have not been around Orble long enough to recall the good old days. It seems that those days are long behind us, yes?

My take on David is that he is now and always was a button pusher. He knows exactly what to say to push the buttons on each individual. And for that matter, some people know exactly how to push his buttons. And the more things escalated, the more heated things got from most of the involved parties.

I am in the minority of people who feels that David got a raw deal by being banned. This is an extremely unpopular viewpoint these days, and I think that it automatically prompts people to think that you agree with or advocate everything he says. Not the case at all. I do not agree with most of the things he says, I simply think that there are other guilty parties who have come away from the ordeal with far less blame.

I am certain that unless my own eyes have been deceiving me, one could rummage through the archives and find instances where vulgar and vile comments were lobbed at David rivaling his own commentary.

As the saying goes "I do not agree with you what you say, but I will fight to the death your right to say it."

Comment by Lola Tahlulah
on That wine cost how much?

May 6th 2009 10:57
Actually, Mogen David is a type of wine. It is generally very cheap, purchased by the jug rather than bottle, which is often seen in one of two places; the communion glasses in church (if you have ever tasted church wine, you have likely tasted Mogen David) or in the grip of a really thrifty person like myself. Most people don't like the taste, but for some reason I really quite enjoy it.

For the record I like beer as well!

Comment by Lola Tahlulah
on Invent Your Own Rubric

May 5th 2009 22:57
Thank you for sharing this. I am always looking for new inspiration and to see the works of others. Tto crawl inside and marinate in the words is just what I need to do.

That is how I hope people approach my writing. Some accuse me of being overly vague, while the eventual conclusion is that I am really quite plain in my writing, one just needs to roll around in it a bit. Again thank you for sharing the link to the web site.

Comment by Lola Tahlulah
on That wine cost how much?

May 5th 2009 11:27
Give me a cheap jug of Mogen David and I'll be satisfied indefinitely. Perhaps a bit lacking in elegance, it does the trick and whets the whistle.

Comment by Lola Tahlulah
on Pastor Tony Alamo: Consent is Puberty

May 5th 2009 10:38
I don't know if it is possible for me to be any more clear in my acceptance of your explanation, so I'll leave it be.

I shall leave you with this message, en Español.

Siento mucho oír que tú estás triste sobre cómo las cosas han salido.

I gave it the old college try, anyway. And in Latin...Mea Culpa.

Comment by Lola Tahlulah
on Pastor Tony Alamo: Consent is Puberty

May 5th 2009 09:45
Mau,

I feel that your defensiveness is a little misplaced, as my understanding is that the above commentary is based on your wording. If you write something in such a way that makes the meaning unclear, it is not the fault of the reader for being unable to decipher your intent.

When I return to the comment in question, I repeatedly get the same message. I understand that you contend this was not your meaning, and I must accept that at face value. I do not know you, and hence must take your clarification to be sincere. I accuse you of nothing, and already apologized for my incorrect interpretation of your words.

Were I to have left well enough alone however, I believe that others happening upon this post would extract the same meaning from your comment as I originally did.

Did you see David over on Whitney's blog, talking about having sex with women who have had Brazilian waxes because it makes them more like children... he actually said he prefers nt!!!!!!!!

When I compare this statement with the clarification provided above by Morgan, I still think it looks like you are saying that David prefers women with a Brazilian wax due to their childlike appearance. Especially when you say that a. talking about having sex with women who have had Brazilian waxes because it makes them look like children...and b. he actually said he prefers nt (I read nt as "it") it is little wonder why myself and others misinterpreted your remarks.

This comment is meant to clarify my meaning, I cannot speak for Samaritan. While you state that you are saddened by the reaction you received, please keep in mind that I am equally saddened by your retort of

I know for some of you, reading words, and making up the message to suit is part in parcel with your daily life, however, don't crucify me for saying the truth.

Crucify is a strong word to use, and your accusation toward those of us with an honest misunderstanding of your choice of words as those who spend our daily lives making up messages to suit our own interests is stronger still. I resent that statement, as I've already conceded the point in a previous comment.

All of that said, I apologize to Morgan for my off topic remarks.

Comment by Lola Tahlulah
on Pastor Tony Alamo: Consent is Puberty

May 5th 2009 00:38
Hi Morgan,

Thanks for clearing that up. I apologize if it came off as defensive. I can understand your shock at the implication that women are responsible for grotesque behavior in males based on their grooming habits. I suppose I should have addressed my comment more to Mau, who is clearly saying something different.

Regarding the Saudi Arabia case, the judge has decreed that when the child turns 12 she will legally be allowed to ask for a divorce. How progressive! I tend to think that men who want to marry or possess girls at that young age do so more for the feeling of control over a subservient human being than for sexual gratification.