Is the Eternal Feminine at Bay?
February 4th 2007 14:22
Yesterday I came across another online magazine for women. I browsed through it, as I usually do with such magazines, and then I never return. Unless I am really bored and there is nothing else to do.
Their attitude does annoy me. Even if they are aimed at career women, the attitude is a bit wrong. They still promote diets. None focuses more on careers, on experiences, on real accounts on everything. They still all make a purpose of discovering what’s behind the masculine mind. Well I don’t care about that when reading such a magazine. I want to read about women. How they handle stuff. Not a psychologist’s opinion on how men think.
Anyway, back to the respective magazine. I loved the slogan: for women who successfully combine their career and family life. Great! I need some advice on that. Then I saw the sections. Career is fourth, after Home, Family and Beauty??? And the square in front of it has the ugliest, least attractive colors of all: a gray of some sort.
Then I read this article in the Lifestyle section. About successful business women in a man’s world. OK, enough of that. I am tired of people talking about how women become more and more like men when they handle important affairs. How the eternal feminine might be lost on the way to prove their independence, their leadership abilities etc.
Just because women want to do what men do does not mean they won’t bring in their own style. Yes, they might experience lack of time and everything, but as Cris said at a certain point, they still have similar issues when it comes to relationships and life in general. They won’t turn into copies of men in their field. Not all of them anyway. Some might!
So maybe a HowTo on how to stay a woman when doing a man’s job? That would be an interesting subject for me. Or maybe an extensive article about day care (or the lack of it) in Romanian companies? Or more statistics or employed women vs housewives. Or women’s salaries vs men’s salaries. Or Queen Bees in Romania. Do they exist? Single women and single mothers. How to handle all life’s responsibility on your own when clearly the stay at home option is not available? Maybe we should focus on that more and less on pathological fights within a relationship.
Their attitude does annoy me. Even if they are aimed at career women, the attitude is a bit wrong. They still promote diets. None focuses more on careers, on experiences, on real accounts on everything. They still all make a purpose of discovering what’s behind the masculine mind. Well I don’t care about that when reading such a magazine. I want to read about women. How they handle stuff. Not a psychologist’s opinion on how men think.
Anyway, back to the respective magazine. I loved the slogan: for women who successfully combine their career and family life. Great! I need some advice on that. Then I saw the sections. Career is fourth, after Home, Family and Beauty??? And the square in front of it has the ugliest, least attractive colors of all: a gray of some sort.
Then I read this article in the Lifestyle section. About successful business women in a man’s world. OK, enough of that. I am tired of people talking about how women become more and more like men when they handle important affairs. How the eternal feminine might be lost on the way to prove their independence, their leadership abilities etc.
Just because women want to do what men do does not mean they won’t bring in their own style. Yes, they might experience lack of time and everything, but as Cris said at a certain point, they still have similar issues when it comes to relationships and life in general. They won’t turn into copies of men in their field. Not all of them anyway. Some might!
So maybe a HowTo on how to stay a woman when doing a man’s job? That would be an interesting subject for me. Or maybe an extensive article about day care (or the lack of it) in Romanian companies? Or more statistics or employed women vs housewives. Or women’s salaries vs men’s salaries. Or Queen Bees in Romania. Do they exist? Single women and single mothers. How to handle all life’s responsibility on your own when clearly the stay at home option is not available? Maybe we should focus on that more and less on pathological fights within a relationship.
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Comment by David
Certain 'women' have always intrigued me ...
If they hate men so much?
Why do they want to be like them? ...
What's the bloody point they're trying to prove? And to whom?
Give me a woman with an equal mind (even a superior one) ... but not an equal body ... (because the whole gay experience doesn't do it for me ...
Women? The most beautiful creatures God ever put on this God-forsaken planet ...
All of the natural beauty and wonder of the world pales into insignificance comapered to the universe that is a woman's exterior and interior ...
A real woman that is .. (one with a mind ... [that she uses ...
It's very unlikely I'll ever visit Romania ... or you'll visit Australia ...
And it might be for the best ... because I'd get out of control and ravage you ...
I love the way you write ... It's so conversational ...
David ...
Comment by Alinas_Stories
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There are women who hate men just as there are men who hate women. But that is not the general idea.
I believe men and women can do basically the same tasks, each individual bringing his/her own method.
The idea that women will not be women anymore if they do a man's job is ridiculous. And the reason smart women don't read women's magazines is just that.
Comment by David
You're welcome ...
I love your simplicity ... (an in, your uncomplicated way ... (not suggesting simpleton here okay ??? *
And the fact that you're genuinely complimentary ... that it's just natural ...
And this notion of men and women doing the same tasks? I like that concept ... (although I'm probably thinking of different things to what you were inferring or implying ... ***
David ...
Comment by Alinas_Stories
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The issue in itself is not complicated. It is people who complicate it, more than needed, thus the sex-wars begin
Comment by Ahmed
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You might hate me when I say that I believe women should not ask for the same rights as men in the workplace, then you'll think I'm crazy when I say they should ask for more rights than men. Why? Just cos, men don't get pregnant, men don't have to respond to their biology save for excreting waste (and sometimes they fail at that
Comment by Lilla
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As a non-reader of any women's magazines, or men's ones for that matter, I enjoyed this post of yours very much and couldn't agree more.
My personal opinion?
You will have more luck in reading interesting posts here in Orble, than out there in the real world of magazine stands.
I think with your clear uncomplicated writing style, perhaps you could write some good articles to sell to the magazines.. on these more interesting topics...?
reading on...
Lilla
Comment by Alinas_Stories
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LIlla, I wonder if they would actually be interested on those topics. I could try of course.
Comment by Ahmed
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Besides, women do a better job than men raising kids, I mean you don't just change thousands of years of natural adaption with crazy new ideals, women are better at it and they will always be better at it hence it will always be ideal for them to raise kids.
Men on the other hand, I don't see the need for them to get this welfare, first they couldn't raise the children as well as the woman (no matter what you say, you can't change that) and also they don't get pregnant.
Comment by Alinas_Stories
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Men only get paid for raising children after the child is born. And there are cases of single dads for several reasons of which the worst is mother's death. So for such cases, men should really learn how to raise their kids instead of shipping them off to female relatives or in worse case, leaving them in the care of Social Services.
Besides, I don't think mothers should stay home for years. It's their right to work and have a career. And besides, they also can happen to become single mothers (divorce is a case or men simply disappearing in the mist) so they have to be able to support themselves. And working and having a good day care program for example can lead to promotions, thus more money, thus a better life for the mother and child.
Comment by Ahmed
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I never said ti wasn't their right to work, I said that they should have a right to choose not to work and get paid as much as if they were working, I hazzard to guess if given the choice a mother would rather stay home and raise her kids than send them off to daycare, well atleast the ones who care about their kids.
If they became single mothers they could stay home anyway, like I said, they should be paid the equivalent working hours they would be if working, doesn't matter if they are single or married or whatever.
Better life? So the high powered attorney mum is going to be busy prosecuting mr. x while her son is in day care, oh it's all wella nd good because when she is going to be home with him for the two waking hours they spend together she'll happily collapse infront of her 50" plasma TV the better life brought them.
Comment by Alinas_Stories
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You cannot say that women would rather stay home and raise their children instead of also working. And good day care programs for employees means having your kid withing reach the whole day, spending lunch hour with them, etc.
Besides, a mother interesting in her children would not watch tv in the short time they have together. But I do know a large number of housewives watching soap operas all day and taking out all the frustration of their sometimes boring and unfulfilled life on their husband and children.
Comment by Ahmed
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Like I said until 6, ie school age, understand? Up until then she could have stayed home, or gone to work had she been so inclined, but whichever she did she'd get paid the same amount as if she was working (which she was whichever she was doing).
I never said women would rather stay home, I said odds are women would rather stay home on the whole, it's a natural human instinct. And brilliant daycare is when you can be with your child as much as you want.
Exactly, theys houldn't, but do you honeslty think working is easy? It exhausts the hell out of people, hence degradign the 'quality of time'.
As for those housewives, well they are just looking to complain. Heres the deal, they may think they are not getting a sense of fullfilment because they aren't working, ok, if you had 500 million dollars would you work? Of course not, you'd have enough money to keep you happily busy doing other stuff. Thats the whole point I am trying to make here, choice, not obligation.
If you are going to just go and say raising kids is not up on par, if not more important than, working as a clerk because raising kids does not give the same snese of fulfilment, ie the woman has to work, then the woman is fundamentally broken because she will not be happy whatever it is she's doing.
Comment by Alinas_Stories
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Women working towards a career are happy doing their job, maybe they would move to a part time for more time, true, but you cannot give up a job you love and not feel something is missing.
Having money and not working? Well, that is how twisted kids appear. Too much money to know what working for it means. If I had that amount of money now, I would choose what to do to make more. True, but I would not stay home all day because I would go crazy in two months. And partying and shopping do not qualify as fulfilling time wasters.