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"The saints sit up in heaven twiddling their thumbs because so few people pray to them any more." - St Madeleine Sophie Barat

I did not come to destroy the law but to fulfil the law.

April 18th 2009 22:30
Once a person accepts that Christ is God made man, then a lot more of Sacred Scripture makes sense.

When the Jews said to Christ, “You are not yet even 50 years old, and yet you claim to have seen Abraham?’

Christ replied, “Before Abraham was, I am.”

Now, the Jews picked up stones to stone Christ for blasphemy (for claiming to be God). For ‘I am’ is the term God used to describe himself:

God said to Moses: I am who am. He said: Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: He who is, has sent me to you. (Exodus)

Even “Christians” don’t believe Christ was God-made-man. They only view Him as the Son of God. As one among many. As a man speaking on behalf of God, not God Himself clothed in human flesh. (Yes it’s a mystery of faith. It’s not about nutting it out. It’s about accepting it. That’s where modern people go horribly askew. They try to rationalise faith, whereas it would cease to be faith if you could rationalise it. There is no longer a need to have faith in something once it has been proven. You can believe it to be true but in terms of religious faith, it would cease. As it will in heaven. Along with hope. For once you possess the object of your desires/hopes you no longer need hope. As St Paul said, only charity will remain. For God is charity).


St John makes it blatantly clear in the beginning of his Gospel that Christ was God made man. “In the beginning … the word was God … and the word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us.”

All of the Old Testament prefigured Christ. It has its fulfilment in Him. That’s what He meant by saying He came to fulfil the law. He was the embodiment of the law. He was God’s word; the walking, talking word of God in the flesh.


And that’s why He could say, “Which one of you can accuse me of sin?” Whereas all men born of flesh are born into sin. But Christ was free of sin. He was the immaculate lamb of God. God cannot sin. So many clues as to Christ’s divine nature. I don’t know what people read when they read Sacred Scripture. Maybe they approach it not to learn anything but to just use it for ulterior purposes. To prove God wrong? It will never happen.

To view Christ as just another man makes Sacred Scripture a pretty dry read. And makes a Christian a pretty dumb Christian.
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Comment by Mistersmith

April 18th 2009 22:43
David
You are fascinating.

Comment by Lady Henrietta Muddling

April 18th 2009 23:04
Teresa,

I have my moments.

Comment by Damo

April 19th 2009 02:01
I have not come the challenge the law but to pay my fine.
Sorry about it being overdue and all.

Comment by Lady Henrietta Muddling

April 19th 2009 02:08
Damo,

three hundred days in purgatory for you!

Comment by Damo

April 19th 2009 02:35
Cool I get to be with some of my friends.

Comment by Nevar

April 19th 2009 08:38
Wow Damo, and the truth doth set you free.

Uh, is there air conditioning David?

Comment by Alexander Cekala

April 19th 2009 10:11
Truly Chrisianity is a faith based religion. As for myself I have to many examples where my faith has been tested and God has come through for me. I believe because my faith, To me has been proven to be well placed. Great post.

Comment by Lady Henrietta Muddling

April 19th 2009 21:59
Nevar,

Purgatory might be cooler than Orble going by some of the hot air around.

But then, even hell has its cold spots. It's where the sun-bunnies are tortured.

Comment by Nevar

April 19th 2009 22:12
Ah, I feel so much better knowing that those sun-bunnies are getting theirs.

uh this thing with the sun-bunnies, it doesn't spill over onto snow-bunnies as well does it?

Some of them have put themselves through hell getting into their snow-bunny suits- can they appeal for special dispensation?

Comment by Lady Henrietta Muddling

April 19th 2009 22:16
Alexander,

Yes, a lot of people forget Christianity is faith-based. And they end up arguing/debating along rational lines. Which is generally futile.

Or they argue secondary issues rather than the primary issue: the existence and nature of God. If you don't agree on that one, you won't agree on much else.

The first question the godparents are asked at Baptism is: What do you ask of the Church? They respond: Faith.

And it is given via the Sacrament. And while a person may abandon the practice of the Faith, the virtue of faith itself never disappears. It is seared indelibly into the soul. Even Satan has faith.

You can often tell if a person has been baptised or not when you discuss religion with them. It can be quite a subtle thing, even to the discerning soul, but there are usually indicators.

Comment by Nevar

April 19th 2009 22:18
Interestingly, my brother David who passed away recently, had in the past shared with me that during one of the occassions that he died and was resuscitated, he'd experienced a tour through hell.

For him, it was as real as his relational experience with God and his wife.

Comment by Lady Henrietta Muddling

April 19th 2009 22:24
Nevar,

I think with both Purgatory and Hell, the thing to remember is that God's justice is perfect as well as infinite.

Thomas a Kempis sums it up best in My Imitation of Christ:

IN ALL things consider the end; how you shall stand before the strict Judge from Whom nothing is hidden and Who will pronounce judgment in all justice, accepting neither bribes nor excuses. ...

For a man will be more grievously punished in the things in which he has sinned. There the lazy will be driven with burning prongs, and gluttons tormented with unspeakable hunger and thirst; the wanton and lust-loving will be bathed in burning pitch and foul brimstone; the envious will howl in their grief like mad dogs.

Every vice will have its own proper punishment. The proud will be faced with every confusion and the avaricious pinched with the most abject want. One hour of suffering there will be more bitter than a hundred years of the most severe penance here. In this life men sometimes rest from work and enjoy the comfort of friends, but the damned have no rest or consolation.

Comment by Lady Henrietta Muddling

April 19th 2009 22:29
Nevar,

That's interesting about your brother. A few saints have had guided tours through Purgatory. St Mary Magdalene del Pazzi is one. She even wrote on it. If I can find it, and it interests you as a read, I'll send you the link.

Comment by Nevar

April 19th 2009 22:59
Sure, I would like to read it.

Some of the greatest theological treatise have come from the mind and contemplative meditations of those who've deliberately cloistered themselves to commune with God.

Even now as we converse with one another, contemplation and meditation are shoring up our relational experience with the creator and contribute to our responses.

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