Australians, New Zealanders, English: what have you heard locally about this?
November 9th 2008 18:07
Folks, as we all know there aren't very many reliable sources for news around; in my last post some Orblers (myself included) did recommend some outstanding resources for impartial news. Many thanks are in order to Damo, David, Jim Stillman, and Ruby Soho.
Now, I need your help specifically please, especially if you live outside of the U.S.
What have you heard or read locally that contains the words "New world order", or "North American Union"?
Also--what do you make of this video, presented as proof that Oz and Canada are having their shots called for them under the same authority?
I'm having trouble with either Youtube or Orble uploading this video, so here's the link:
Identical speech 2003, Canada's Steven Harper and PM Howard announcing reasons to invade Iraq
PLEASE take a minute to watch it and tell me your impressions.
Something smells like shit on the worldwide stage, guys.
Now, I need your help specifically please, especially if you live outside of the U.S.
What have you heard or read locally that contains the words "New world order", or "North American Union"?
Also--what do you make of this video, presented as proof that Oz and Canada are having their shots called for them under the same authority?
I'm having trouble with either Youtube or Orble uploading this video, so here's the link:
Identical speech 2003, Canada's Steven Harper and PM Howard announcing reasons to invade Iraq
PLEASE take a minute to watch it and tell me your impressions.
Something smells like shit on the worldwide stage, guys.
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Comment by Nevar
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We have to stay informed, now more than ever..all of us worldwide.
Comment by Lady Henrietta Muddling
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An interesting article in relation to the origins of the 'New World Order' is:
Illuminati Conspiracy - by Terry Melanson
It also links to an aritcle he wrote on Freemasonry.
As to the New World Order itself? Any conspiracy site. But Melanson's site will probably link you with most of them.
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Comment by Lady Henrietta Muddling
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Melanson does his best to present as much information as he can on subjects like the Illuminati and Freemasonry.
He does actually have an article on the North American Forum and New World Order.
It's always a good sign when an author gets attacked by the momevents he/she's exposing. I'd recommend his site.
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I haven't checked the link. I've got a temporary problem with plugins.
Nevar,
Yeah, he's done his research.
Comment by Damo
You are a devil.
Because the era has passed I can laugh my head off about it.
Stereophonic.
However there is a remote possibility that it is just plagiarism.
The only difference being the interjections on the Australian side.
I believe if you check the speech may be a paraphrased excerpt from a book called 'The Case for War' I am not sure about the title. John Howard was often quoting from it at the time.
Sorry if I do not have a reference but I am a bit short on time.
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Maybe this helps.
Illuminati consperacies.
North American Union sounds like NAFTA that has been around since Clinton.
Hope that helps
Comment by Wynona Lavota
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I have not heard/read anything locally about a NWO or a North American Union except in terms of trade e.g. NAFTA
Oh and I live in Australia.
Comment by Mountain Fog
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QUOTE ME NO QUOTES!
try NEXUS magazine, it is online now. I knew the original owner and still editor, Duncan Roads, and it does have whacky stuff in it, but a lot of what I have read there, articles from insiders and whistleblowers, and marginalised scientists, has ended up a few years later in the mainstream press.
Ex-CIA agents, and others, also write articles, or are interviewed for it occassionally, one in particular wrote a book on an up-coming planned global economic crisis, written in the 1970's....this ex-CIA guy reckoned it was going to outstrip the great Depression in scope and force countires to band together to try and survive.
He suggested that big corporate and government were going to engineer a crisis in order to bring about a global economy...
Ex Pres George Bush snr was the first politican to publicly refer to "the new world order", but what that specifically referred to, in its entire scope, was not spelt out. he originally was referring to military action in the Middle East.
As for Canada and Australia, we, along with New Zealand, Britain and the USA, are partners in Eschelon, a major global spy system that grew out of the original UKUSA network, that being Britain and the USA, which formed after the end of WW2.
Put it this way, the leaders of these countries, (and their continuing successors no matter if left or right in politics) it would seem, have a longer range view of the world order of things, and they are sticking together, in spy terms, but it would seem not trade, as yet!
The predicted major blocks will be, Europe, Asia, and the Americas.
Australia and its local pals, NZ, PNG, etc, will have to see who to side with, or most likely, who will allow them to join their trade pack.
This then will be the advent of the dissolution of 'sovereign states' as we know them today, resulting in a larger more corporate style group which will dictate terms to individual group member 'sovereign states', deciding what is best for all in the group, for trade, employment etc.
It is Orwellian in nature and scope, no doubt about it.
Some say, 911 and this economic crisis were but initial steps in bringing all this about.
It is the final play by the major banking interests and who supports them politically (and militarily) that may be behind all this.
None of this will be to the benefit of the powerless low paid commoner, I have no doubt!!
cheers
fog
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If you haven't seen these two films, I sugggest you sit back for a few hours.
The Addendum has what you need to know about the this New world Order/Ameroo business, as well as the new fish and chip set too .. but the first will give you background... much background. Facts not fiction.
But hey, on the bright side, I've heard that the Intergalactic Council (on Sirius), arent having any of it, and will intervine soon, ooh around about dec 21st 2012, with the big change following in February 2013.
remember the oil will run out fairly soon too.
... nothing to worry about, just remember to pack a towel with your drumsticks, okay?
Lilla ...
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I agree with Damo that the speech itself is a simple case of plagiarism by a speechwriter that was either too pressed for time or too lazy to write it him/herself. Ridiculous, considering the forums, that they did not consider that they would be very easily caught out.
I haven't heard any references in our news services regarding NWO and the only time I have heard the term North American Union is in the same context that Wynona mentioned.
I have to say that most of the news I see is from BBC World which runs constantly in my office and the Aussie broadsheets, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Australian.
I have, like most, heard about the Illuminati conspiracy theories that abound but certainly not in this context. I hope this helps.
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Fog- remember the guy's name? That's an interesting quote and it ties in with THIS.
Wynona, yes--NAFTA ties in with all of this too. If you hear the term (New World Order) in a speech or anywhere, let us know here, okay?Thank you!
Lilla-I'll be downloading the movies now. Thanks!
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Rudd on globalization; UK Labour party address
Comment by Damo
You do realize that the you linked K Rudds video to the Australian Labour Party YouTube Page?
I am not sure what you are questioning.
Can you explain it better.
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QUOTE ME NO QUOTES!
I will endeavour to find out who this guy is and the name of his book, also, I will post back here with some relevant NEXUS magazine references.
chers
fog
P.S. Eschelon is a global spy system that records every phone call, fax, email, text and mobile call and can track, globaly, any target if they have the voice print...very big brother and its major land down link base is here in Oz... Why I mention this i, because obviously it will come into play,if a major global staged "event' is caused, especially if the wrong people are in charge of it... Eschelon is public knowledge, but not many people seem to realize it exists interestingly.
Comment by Mountain Fog
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I havewritten to NEXUS, they may or may not be able to pin point this book, but, here is a link to their site, and you cna subscribe to it, I highly recommend you do, as it is often the source of very illuminating articles based on independant researchers' work.
cheers
fog
Follow this link. If it fails, it is easy to track on google.
NEXUS MAGAZINE
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Eschelon is on my research list; I read about it in Scientific American, I think. Scary stuff.
Comment by Mountain Fog
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yes I did check that link, it is rather curious to say the least, but I must admit, after reading one of the responses to it,pointing out it was highly edited and taken out of context, I would like to see the unedited interviews.
there is too much organized 'disinformation' out there, besides the usual politically fuelled unfounded accusation, to know what is real and what is not.
Anyhoo, it is worth keeping tabs on it all...
cheers
fog
P.S. Have not heard back from nexus yet, I'll let you know when thye reply.