"atheisms, transexualisms, or homosexual preferences"
April 22nd 2009 16:11
Bloggers are such idealistic souls who are found often defending their honour... fiercely rebutting their views on the world, and the lables that their opinions seem to earn them.
How though, can any blogger honestly rebut what they themselves have proven to be fact?
If someone says to you, after having read your words that you're homophobic, chances would have it that most likely, YOU ARE!
Whislt you may not personally like this label, it is something that you have undoubtedly secured through what others see within your writing as homophobia. It can be rather troublesome to cope with the shock of a label, especially one that carries such negative and grave connotations. Rather than interjecting though, with a hollow statement along the lines of "I'm not homophobic", you may be better off examining the reasons behind why others perceive you in such a way.
It may not always be the words your write, but they way in which you construct your blogs. It may not always be a direct attack at a homosexual person, but perhaps an off hand comment. It may not always be your conscious intention, but possibly that you have never trully assessed yourself to know exactly where you stand.
There's a lot of mud being slung around Orble at the moment, and before slamming your blogging neighbours, perhaps all should take a little time out for self reflection.
If you don't know where you stand, then how can you possibly stand at all!
your atheisms, transexualisms, or homosexual preferences,
How though, can any blogger honestly rebut what they themselves have proven to be fact?
If someone says to you, after having read your words that you're homophobic, chances would have it that most likely, YOU ARE!
Whislt you may not personally like this label, it is something that you have undoubtedly secured through what others see within your writing as homophobia. It can be rather troublesome to cope with the shock of a label, especially one that carries such negative and grave connotations. Rather than interjecting though, with a hollow statement along the lines of "I'm not homophobic", you may be better off examining the reasons behind why others perceive you in such a way.
It may not always be the words your write, but they way in which you construct your blogs. It may not always be a direct attack at a homosexual person, but perhaps an off hand comment. It may not always be your conscious intention, but possibly that you have never trully assessed yourself to know exactly where you stand.
There's a lot of mud being slung around Orble at the moment, and before slamming your blogging neighbours, perhaps all should take a little time out for self reflection.
If you don't know where you stand, then how can you possibly stand at all!
your atheisms, transexualisms, or homosexual preferences,
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Comment by Morgan Bell
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its funny whenever people talk about the "good old days" they usually mean the days where life was simple because noone ever challenged you on homophobic/sexist/racist attitudes
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
Yes that is certainly what is apparent to me, having read all of this inflammatory vitriol over the last week or so. Good on you for having the strength of character to stand up against the vile personally attacks which seem to be launched at you on a daily basis.
Mau-Medellin
Comment by RubySoho
Music Zone
Thought Zone
Welcome Mau. May you not get caught in the fray!
Comment by Nevar
Is Why
Another's sexual orientation isn't a real concern to me; so much as having to tolerate what I perceive to be deviant and abnormal behavior as normal.
I don't care to parade my sexual proclivities to the public at large-I didn't acquire the exhibitionist gene at birth-so why do I need to tolerate bad behavior from those who have?
The bulk of those exhibitionists are gay and seem to be in a state of constant competition to be more radically gay than their peers.
Yet, I need to be branded something I'm not, for being disapproving? Which is to be called homophobic and judgmental.
I served in Vietnam as a Marine, several of my comrades were gay - they didn't lack for courage and bled red when wounded. My older sister is bi-sexual, two brother are bi-sexual and none are flagrant in their behavior. Homophobic - no, moralist not really, judgmental and disapproving of abhorrent behavior, yup.
Explanations for my attitude are floating around in various comments.
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
It certainly just looks like people enjoy obliterating each other on here. I just wish there was a clear reason as to WHY.
Alas, I think Orble is a very cyclic place, where the same things seem to happen on a regular basis. Do the players ever change, or are they just picked off one-by-one?
Mau-Medellin
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
Hi Nevar,
Excuse me if I misunderstood, but it appears that what you're saying is you've no issue with gay people, so long as there is no sign that they're gay?
Should people be brandished as abhorrent, simply because they tend to be a little more flamboyant that a rusty bucket?
If you find my behaviour so abhorrent, I would suggest you refrain from visiting my blog; I will certainly pay you the same courtesy.
Mau-Medellin
Comment by samaritan
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Comment by Norm
Consumption Malfunction
Equal and Opposite
Arses and Elbows
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I know, I'm a public speaking.
Don't keep it to yourself.
It's not fair.
The heterogeneousness we now have is great.
I much prefer it to homogeneousness.
Comment by Mountain Fog
Infognito
Screen Trek
QUOTE ME NO QUOTES!
I have had my fair share vilification, and some, in the past, and present too. In fact, just recently a moron on Orble decided to mock my sexuality, as an attempt to stop me criticising the antics of the fascist Bush regime...I know.. how on earth could one do that?
But, it happens, especially when morons run out of frontal lobe space and cannot deal with a concept that challenges their prejudice.
But, don't think the controllers of Orble willl stand up for you if you are attacked, well not in my experience, as was the case.
In N.S.W. there are laws protecting gays against sexual discrimination and vilification. I could have reported this twat for his obvious anti-gay and slyly anti-semetic crap, but, with Orble standing up for him, it seemed pointless.
cheers
and always remember, when the opposer of your view reverts to abuse, know then, that you have already won the argument!
fog
Comment by Bryn
Horrorphile
Comment by Janet Collins
Acceptable Etiquette
The Social Critic
Janet Collins Blog
Sometimes simple comments or even posts can be interpreted in an entirely different way to what we may have intended, that's for sure. Recently, I found myself defending a comment that had been taken in a very different way to what as meant. It was nothing to do with homosexuality but my experience was enough to make me assess how any words I use just may be interpreted.
Interesting post.
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
I'm sorry to hear that you have been subjected to such bigotry on this site. I hope one day people will awake to their insidious, lewd behaviour - AND GROW UP!
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
How dare you expose my secret identity! Now I will have to kill you
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
Personally I have not been offended by anything you have written, but I think you provide an interesting and juxtaposing idea. It can certainly be difficult to convey ones meaning in text, especially in this scenario when we make comments on the fly without having much time to consider how they may be perceived by others.
Glad you liked my post, and hopefully you were able to clear any misunderstanding between you and the other blogger concerned.
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
You've totally lost me, but I'm sure it's nice hehe
Comment by Morgan Bell
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Comment by Natalina
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This is the key, isn't it? I couldn't agree more! I think if we all took the time to review our own souls, we'd be a little less quick to judge others.
Comment by Bryn
Horrorphile
katymau, so who's the pretty banner boy then?
Comment by Lilla
From The Home Front
Enviro Warrior
Dream Herald
Esoteric Bookshop
Huh? I am not sure I can grab that logic and agree, maybe i misunderstood your point? Are you saying that if someone calls you an idiot, or a moron or lunatic, mean you are, surely not?
Point is I am not homophobic and was recently also accused of being one too?
For me its not becuase of the flamboyance of gay men, far from it as I said I have a very close friend who makes me laugh my head of because of it, but because sometimes it is flaunted in anothers face maliciously as an *up yours* measure. I think that is what Nevar is trying to say.
Invading people*s space like that is not kosher in my book as it takes their energy; is just plain rude and indeed abhorrent no matter what bloomin* sex you are.
Least that*s my interpretation of it, but I have been known to be wrong too
Lilla . .
Comment by Nevar
Is Why
I blog as ad hominem and often comment from the same mindset; perhaps you can provide these folks some insight to the humor when I couple that with my [normal] hyperbole.
Asexual hugs, n luv.
Comment by Alita Morgan
TransSex & The City
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
Thanks for your comment; glad we agree. I think the common theme here, is that we would all like our peers to be more scrutinising of themselves rather than condemning those around them- for simply existing.
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Nevar,
I do not wish to converse with you on my blog. I have removed two of your previous comments as you had made offensive comments towards a fellow blogger. I am sorry, but if you wish to degrade and humiliate someone please do it on your own blog - Not mine thanks.
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Hi Lilla,
Thanks for your comments.
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Hey Alita,
I can certainly see where you are coming from, and of course it is hard for you to comment on my personal situation without knowing me a little better. I don't think I'm one to jump the gun with regards to homophobia, transphobia, or even arachnophobia. The main point to my post is that sometimes, despite what we think about ourselves we may very well be sending others a complete different message.
And yes, I can see the irony here telling you all what I think I think, knowing all to well that you might in fact think I'm insane lol
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Hellow Bryn,
The pretty banner boys is someone you may know, goes by the name Bruno
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A big thanks to everyone for the comments!! I really appreciate everyone's interjection and for the most part civilised discussion.
Mau-Medellin
Comment by Alita Morgan
TransSex & The City
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
Alita, I think we're proving ourselves right, or perhaps wrong... who knows any more!! lol
What I meant about the 'irony' was that I thought what I wrote was a little ironic given the post.
See you on Farm Town!!
Comment by Bryn
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Comment by Nevar
Is Why
So, please ~ faggot up your standards pal.
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
I'm very sorry for the flame war that erupted here between Morgan Bell and Nevar. If I had come online sooner the comments would have also been removed sooner!
As I have said, I will NOT be entertaining such childishness on my blog - Never, Morgan, and anyone else who cannot accept that should simply refrain from visiting me.
Mau-Medellin
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
I have made it clear that I do not wish for my blog to host personal attacks, towards anyone! Surely though, you can accept that one cannot moderate 24/7 and as such if you insist on leaving lewd comments on my blog there is a chance that they will remain until I am online next. The solution = don't comment on my blog!
[QUOTE]So, please ~ faggot up your standards pal.
Perhaps the message is lost on me as I obviously do not 'get' your particular style of wit/sarcasm/satire or whatever you wish to call it.
Personally I just think the "faggot up your standards pal" line is offensive, and shows you refuse to show even a basic level of courtesy and respect to your peers. I do not visit your blog, and have not comment you or made reference to you, so please go away... If you're going to act like a child then go play in the sand pit (that goes for Morgan too!).
Comment by Nevar
Is Why
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Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
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Comment by Nevar
Is Why
The near militant mind set of some of your fans is clearly anti religion, anti hetro and anti anything they happen to dislike.
Well, I happen to take umbrage with their labels as much they take to my retorts.
Comment by Nevar
Is Why
Comment by Nevar
Is Why
She doesn't hate me any more than I hate her.
But, what had not happened in months was dialog between us. Was it heated sure, but if you were reading carefully, you'd have noticed that a truce was being worked out.
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
We will have to agree to disagree. I believe your comments are formulated to be offensive. Perhaps the manner in which they are constructed gives you some room to move, that is, enough grey are to debate the true meaning. Fact's still remain though, if I hadn't had to delete a string of offensive comments by you from my blog I may not be so swift to read the negative connotation's in your subsequent ones.
I do not care to debate this issue any further with you, regardless of what reasoning you bring to the table.
Please do not visit my blog again.
Mau-Medellin
Comment by Nevar
Is Why
Until then . . .
Comment by Nevar
Is Why
Comment by Nevar
Is Why
when you know full well that it is provocative.
Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
I have dealt with you and Morgan in the same manner... I think your bold comment is a little wasted here.
If you have issues with a particular blogger please take it up with them; if your issues are with me, then I strongly suggest you state what your issues are, or where I may have offended you?
If you cannot do that then please leave me in peace. I will remove any further rude, offensive, or off-topic comments by any user on this post.
Comment by Mau-Medellin
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Comment by Nevar
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Comment by Mau-Medellin
Mau-Medellin
Damo will not allow me to comment on his posts and as such I will not allow him the privilage to comment mine.
Every comment by this troll is being emailed to a safe place for future reference, and deleted from my blog.